Tiger woods 10 on no 12

We didn’t see every shot on tv but he admits to them all. Was it a brain fade? Why did he have to replay the last ball from the bunker? I thought you drop at the point of entry which would have been the green side of Rays creek. He didn’t need to shoot for the pin off the tee. So many questions.

I think the better question is how did he erase the memory and shoot 5 under on the next six holes…

Is that what aggressive tiger would have been?

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Or is it that after he had blown all that cash he stopped caring and played more freely aka Rory?

Tiger doesn’t play the Masters for the cash. Guarantee he not once has stood on that course and thought about the check.

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Cash may have been the wrong term. Perhaps substitute cash for shots

I am not sure of why he played a second bunker shot either. :thinking:

If that’s a yellow penalty area, he had to either replay the shot (as he did) or drop keeping the spot where the ball entered the PA between himself and the hole. He apparently preferred the bunker shot to another pitch over the water.

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@davep043 consistently increases my knowledge of the rules!

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Thanks Dave for the scenario. I assumed it was a lateral red staked penalty area but on tv I couldn’t see any stakes.

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I looked again today, and couldn’t see stakes or paint, but given its location, between the tee and the green, I’m guessing that it is yellow. Red stakes are more commonly used for what once were called lateral Penalty Areas (I’m still so tempted to use the term hazards). This is the guidance from the RoG:

Most penalty areas should be marked red to give players the additional option of lateral relief (see Rule 17.1d(3)). However, where part of the challenge of the hole is to carry over a penalty area such as a stream that crosses the front of the putting green and there is a good chance that a ball that carries over the stream could fall back into it, the Committee may decide to mark the penalty area as yellow. This ensures that a ball that lands on the far side of the penalty area before rolling back into the penalty area cannot be dropped on the far side under the lateral relief option.

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Considering his shots previously all carried the “penalty area” and rolled back in, we can logically conclude it is a yellow penalty area.

I do find it interesting that he didn’t come further up for his 2nd shot… and instead “picked his distance”

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Interesting, wouldn’t he be able to go to the complete opposite side of the water though? So now he has a longer shot but all uphill and less chance of making a mistake?

I didn’t watch him play that hole, but it’s a shocking #. I doubt he has ever hit that many bad shots in a row. And then he goes 5 under for the next 6 holes? Angry golf or truly just not caring?

You should watch him play it… his first shot lands short and rolls back into the water, first penalty ball lands on the green and rolls back in… second penalty ball he overcooks (for good reason) into the bunker… has a terrible stance and puts it into the creek, and then hits the same shot out of the bunker and onto the green.

His first sand shot was his only REAL miss, I think… The two balls that rolled into the water were probably 2-3 yards short of what he though they were going to do…

I think it was a mistake to not move closer to the hole, but I’m also not Tiger Woods… It was interesting to watch him hit each shot… he was never angry or rushed… just kept grinding.

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I thought maybe he could have taken the ball back on the line when he hit it out of the bunker the first time. Even if it is yellow staked that is normally an ok thing to do. I was reading though that his options were to go back to the drop zone or drop in the bunker. I am no rules guru just curious how it works.

I don’t know if watching someone make a 10 on a par 3 would be good…although if Tiger can do it then I really do need to keep my expectations in check. I was moaning because I 3-putted several times yesterday lol.

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It’s worth a watch… he commits to the shot each time he hits it, even when the last shot didn’t go as planned… he’s focused on making the lowest score possible even as he chances blow up.

Honestly it’s just impressive, even if it was a ten on a par three.

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I think he could have dropped “back on the line”, but I’m not sure he could get to his preferred yardage and still have been in fairway grass. I looked on Google Earth, and couldn’t quite tell what his line would have been. And I honestly don’t know if there is a drop zone on that hole. There’s no specific reason to install one, as far as I can tell reading the rules.
And the only way to really learn the rules is to think about these situations, and read through the rules on your own.

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I see, so he would have had to go back to the other side of the creek instead?

Let’s look at the rule, 17.1d. Assuming that this is indeed a Yellow Penalty Area and that the player chooses not to play the ball as it lies, he has two choices. The player may take Stroke and Distance Relief (Tiger’s drop in the bunker, although he could have possibly dropped it a bit further from the lip). The player may instead take Back on the Line Relief.

Back-On-the-Line Relief. The player may drop the original ball or another ball (see Rule 14.3) in a relief area that is based on a reference line going straight back from the hole through the estimated point where the original ball last crossed the edge of the penalty area:
Reference Point: A point on the course chosen by the player that is on the reference line and is farther from the hole than the estimated point (with no limit on how far back on the line)

The RP may not be within the same Penalty Area (for instance, on an island in the creek, if one is available). Further from the hole means the RP pretty much has to be on the opposite side of the creek from the green, no matter which side of the creek it entered.

I’m quoting the rule so that everyone can read them for themselves, I think we should always verify what someone tells us about the rules.