ARRCOS Caddie Link

I think I can provide some useful insight here as I have used and own both. Earlier this year I bought the V3, as my frustration with waiting on the link boiled over. My biggest gripe was the phone in the pocket but also I wanted to use my phone to play music at times. I have been an arccos user since shortly after they came out and would estimate that I have well over 10,000 shots in the system. I probably have about 15 rounds in V3. Here are my observations:

On Course Use:
The V3 is awesome in that it also serves as a golf watch. The watch itself is a great product and I have continued to use it even after the link came out (more on that later)

The Caddie app is very useful when I am playing a new course, I don’t rely on the caddie feature much - I try to do my round planning before I play. But for checking on a specific carry distance or getting a distance to a specific spot on the green it is very useful. For non-tournament rounds I also really like the expanded plays as feature. I usually expand the breakdown and eliminate the wind calc and replace with my own estimate. I have found that the other adjustments are very accurate (barometric pressure, temp, and elevation) and referring to them in casual play has helped me better estimate these conditions when playing in tournament rounds.

Post Round Editing:
There’s just no comparison here, the arccos app is so much easier to make changes after your round. I love shotscope’s app but it takes me probably twice as long to make the little tweaks that I do every round.

My current process (playing with the link) is to mark the pin using the link and then write down first putt distance on my scorecard. After the round I go in and make sure the first putt is in the right place and the right distance. I rely heavily on the proximity stat so I am very careful to make sure this is very accurate. This process is very quick with arccos and very accurate.

Stats:
Before strokes gained I would have told you that the stats engines are very comparable. Strokes gained is a huge game changer for me. The ability to see specifically in what part of your game you are giving up strokes is a huge benefit. For instance, right after they came out with strokes gained I learned that I was giving up half a stroke around on approach shots from the tee (im a 2.8 hcp so this is a huge revelation). I quit using a tee on most par 3s and have seen immediate improvement. There are dozens of other small insights like that that I think are extremely helpful. I also use club data in arccos to estimate my dispersion with different clubs in different conditions and have found that using this data to plan rounds has been highly effective. Shotscope also has a great stats engine but with the recent changes at arccos it is a clear winner here.

Verdict:
I had quit using arccos entirely earlier this year, eventually I switched to shotscope and enjoyed it but found that the post round editing hassle made me a little less ocd about my accuracy of my stats which is not a good thing. Once link came out I switched back and I am absolutely loving it again. I am getting ready to leave for Pinehurst tomorrow and am planning on playing with the shotscope watch and using the link to track the round.

Hopefully this is helpful, let me know if you have any follow up questions - ill try to keep an eye on this post.

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great summary, thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough writeup!

From what I understand Shot Scope will have strokes gained in 2021. Once they do have that feature, how would you evaluate them? Also, do you think it’s worth paying the yearly fee for Arccos?

Good questions, once Shotscope has the strokes gained feature I would say that they are extremely comparable from a stats standpoint. I love the dispersion on the dashboard on Shotscope, I just logged back in to remind myself how it looks and it is phenomenal. The one place i would still give arrcos a lead is in post round editing, I can do it in a few minutes from my phone, Shotscope is tough to do until you login to the computer. It would not be hard to make a few ui improvements to shotscopes app to get it up to the same ease of use though. I would imagine they are improving this feature.

As far as subscription, I have been with arccos long enough that I’m grand fathered in, I cant remember if that stays that way forever but today I don’t pay a subscription. Honestly though with the amount of money I spend on golf, any fee (within reason) probably makes financial sense.

One other thought I did have on shotscope, I LOVE that the sensors don’t have batteries, when an Arccos sensor goes out they are easy to replace but its one more thing you have to mess with.

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Great review ! Thanks for posting

I received my Link a few weeks ago. Although I don’t recall specifically, I believe it charged in an afternoon. Worked as expected during play. I really like the feature that allows you to easily mark pin location while on the green, much easier than pulling out phone to do so. I still play with my phone in my pocket to quickly check yardage

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I just got my sensors last night to put on my clubs. I have not gotten the link so it says i have to keep my phone in my front pocket while hitting, is that correct? I can just place it in my pants pocket and it will be fine? Will be using them for the first time on saturday.

Ty

correct, the phone must be on you because that’s how it’s measuring where you are on the course when the shot is hit (the link removes the need for your phone)

thank you, so i got a great deal on the sensors because of buying the new driver. I will try them out and see how i like it before i go and purchase the link.

Let me know how it goes!

I will be playing saturday and sunday so i will definitely let you know what i think. ty

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I love the total Arccos experience. Strokes Gained. Link. Dashboard. I would highly recommend it to any golfer.

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Having to be tethered to a phone is a deal breaker for me.

So i used it for the first time this past weekend. Still undecided. Didnt really bother me to have my phone in my pocket but it would turn off after so long and i am not sure if the Arrcos kept up with it. When i checked after the round i noticed my score was different and it missed different shots. I guess i have to fool around with it to see how it really works. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ty

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Been using Arccos since Eisenhower. I agree with Etmiller83, SG is a game changer. Soon they will have it in their dashboard, what a Wow.
Frankly, never understood folks that say “phone in pocket dealbreaker”. Ok, so don’t put it in your pocket. I clip it to my belt in the small of my back, a la Captain Kirk (ok, I’m dating myself a bit there). Works!


Don’t know it’s there. Plus, the GPS is always available even when exploring less visited areas of the property.
Btw, I also find it interesting that those same players will go to their clubfitter to get their swingweight “just right”, then strap a honkin’ great watch on their lead wrist. Think that might not throw it off? Astounding.
Link update: I was an “early adopter”. Been using Link, haven’t counted rounds but guessing 50ish? but frankly I still keep phone on my back for gps. In general, Link gps is as good (maybe better) than phone, although it did lose lock just once. I suppose the ‘mark-the-flag’ is simpler, but that’s it. Full disclosure, I don’t stream music or take calls so non-issue for me.
Again, Etmiller83 is spot on, SG is total game changer. I also like that I can compare my game to any handicap. It has really focused my practice/play. For example, told me my approach from 100-150 was poor. So, rangework and a bit extra focused on those shots = drop in my scores!

Hope this helps!

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Just got my sensors in mail as well. Will start using next week!

Is phone in a fanny pack fine? Seems to be same as the pocket.

Any other tips for first time user? Thanks.

I just started using it last week. I have no problem with keeping my phone in the pocket but the problem i am finding is that it is missing shots. And then if you go and try to edit it,now you have to try and remember the spot that you were on that hole. Not sure if i am doing something wrong or not. If i can figure this out, i will keep it because i do like the information. Just getting frustrated with not having all of the correct information. Any suggestions would be great. Ty

How many shots is it missing? If it is missing more than 3 (not putts) per round, something’s wrong. I don’t get more than 1-2 per.
Unregistered putts are almost always tap-ins that I don’t stand still long enough.

I will have to check next weekend. I saw the missing shots this week and got frustrated with it. Felt i was more concerned with that then playing my game so i just forgot about checking it at one point. I will just start it and let it go until the end of the round next weekend and see how it ends up. Ty

The microphone on your mobile phone is what senses each shot. Try putting your phone in your pocket with the top end down, microphone up. That may help. If it’s the same club not being sensed on a regular basis, you might try repairing that club. The sensors are UV activated and I have noticed some challenges on rainy or really cloudy days. Before Arccos, I never played with phone in my pocket, now, it’s just natural for me. I routinely double check it between holes and adjust pin, putts v chips, add penalties (too many). Doesn’t slow me down and much easier than trying to recall later or making notes on a scorecard.

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To what @Bogey_Warrior said, phone also needs to be in your front pocket, ideally in your front left pocket (for righties) to pick up all the shots. Other small thing is when you’re on the green: The sensors are OFF when the club is grip-down, and ON when they’re grip-up. Sometimes that means Arccos will pick up extra putts on the green because it hears other people’s putts. So you can either just decrease the # of putts on the app (easy), or you can hold your putter upside down unless it’s your turn to putt (a little bit annoying).

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