What do you see in your region for golf industry

Hello,

Thank you for sharing your insights about the golf industry’s changes in response to the pandemic in your area. It’s truly fascinating how the unexpected surge in golf activities led to bustling courses and busy driving ranges. The idea of “smart” green fees that adjust based on demand is a clever solution to manage the situation.

Your observations about receiving discounted green fee offers from more distant golf courses and the increase in equipment offerings highlight the evolving strategies in the golf industry. Comparing the current situation to the slowdown of the late 70s and early 80s offers a thought-provoking perspective.

I’m particularly impressed by how Royal Oaks Country Club in Vancouver, WA, has managed these challenges. Adapting membership, offerings, and policies to address the rise in golfing activity is commendable. The sense of community coming together before and after the pandemic is truly heartening. The community is using these picturesque golf courses in Vancouver, Washington as a retreat to celebrations, gatherings, meetings, and more. The club’s adjustments to green fees and equipment offerings have transformed it into a celebratory hub.

I’m intrigued to know about your local golf courses. How are they responding to these changes?

Looking forward to learning more.

Best regards,

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You are in the golf industry, I presume.
Thank you for your insight from that side of the road.

Our City Parks management ( municipal golf courses belong in that department for management ) are pencil pushers and they are not even golfers , so I heard. They care for one thing only, maximizing profit, instead of serving the public.
It is evident in many decisions they had made in the last couple of decades. A local muni course with over 110 years of history had the back nine chopped up by shortening two holes because the neighbors across the roadway complained of errant golf shots landing in their yards. So it has 3 par 3 in a roll, farther shortening the already short golf course. The screen made of trees had perished on the right side to block the slicers tee shots, the solution is to build a net system in sections of angles ( no need to build the whole length ) to effectively block the errant golf shots, but the city took the easy way out by chopping short the holes. My buddies and I have not return to that course for a long time.
The Parks and Recreation department syphon the profit generated from the municipal golf courses to other projects instead reinvest back into the golf courses. They paid outside consultant $230,000+ for a study of using the land for affordable housing. All along they were taunting quality life for the citizens. So in their opinion, the golf courses are not as important as a park with swing sets and slide. Money wasted.

Like many of these ignorant pencil pushers lacking real life experience inserting their ideas from data to reality without testing. Like one traffic circle in our area was re-built 3 times, because study showed the traffic circle will solve the issue of increasing traffic and increased driving speed.
I my opinion, the “smart tee time” as you call the Dynamic Pricing, is nothing but robbery. It’s like having a Christmas Sale before the Thanks Giving is over. Out of line and does not fit in.
I have no idea how these “solutions” are dreamed up and by who? Besides the golf tee time and fees schedule many other aspect in life also, in my opinion, out of line and messed up.
Life is not playing a video game, not about getting by and don’t care because I’ll be out of here when issues arises. Not run by taking a couple of golf course management classes and a degree taught by someone who was not a golfer.
A lot of us vote by our wallet as several other members mentioned. In my circle, our guys refused to participate and rather drive longer distance to other venues for golf.
I know we don’t have enough numbers to influence the current policy. But we are not a small group either. Just, wait when this golf craze stirred up by the pandemics is over. The golf courses will lose the “new golfer” because they’ll be back to whatever they were doing prior to the pandemics and golf is really not a game which someone could pick it up and be good at it right away. In the meantime, this policy of milking more out of the golfer’s pocket will deter many of the long time golfers who would stayed in the game otherwise.
From talking to several local brick and mortar golf stores recently while shopping for a new pair of golf shoes for my wife; all of the employees I talked to reflected that their inventory and the supply from the OEM had been dropping since the pandemic is over. Some high end golf shoes are no longer being offered. My wife had to settle for the previous year model of the style she likes. The new models all look like tennis shoes to give the impression of being comfortable.

I only have pennies to spend but I will spend them at the place I want.
It is hard for me to accept the excuse of “trying to control” the surging crowd of golfers during the pandemics.
It worked as first come first serve, always, through good times and bad times.
I hope all the golf courses employing this method did not need to spend any extra expenditure for software or ways to implementation.
Resources wasted.
The right way is to stop the brand new golfers from getting on the golf course before they learned how to advance a golf ball. Encouraging them to use par3, executive type of shorter golf links first.

Ever heard of how other parts of the world deal with this “crowding issue”. They require anyone getting on the golf courses has the basic knowledge of etiquette and advancing the golf ball in the general direction.
Our golf course management has a lot to learn.
Life can not be run by a module for A.I.
As well as the G.P.S. system is to aide finding the direction, not taking over the common sense and our eyes and between the ears.
Gold courses can not be run by modules created by none golfers.

First, I wish all of you be safe, in the forefront of this climate attack with hurricane and flooding.
Our region had just passed the second longest dry spell with temperature registered over 70 F. a few sprinkles last night and today. Temperature will drop to high 60F for the most part of next week.
As far as I know, the golfers around here are still trying to squeeze out what they could with golf before the raining season starts. Typically sometime in September but we’ll never be sure since the climate pattern shifted.
I’m surprised that even for a weekday morning like today, a few of the local municipal golf courses were packed. Lots of young and middle aged golfers. I wonder if they were supposed to be “working from home” ?
I know if I were in a job transition, I will not be golfing with the economic outlook before I could secure my next position.

Here’s something that really struck me this year. I play on mostly Muni courses. (I do have a main club that I mostly play, but I do like to play some different tracks about every 4th round) When you book tee time OL, they ask for your email and you get on their list and receive all kinds of invitations to play. Now, because of my work schedule I have not had the ability play in regular Men’s Golf Association Tourneys, but I still belong and the Association and Tourneys are closed to Non-Members of our Men’s Association. This year however, I received 3 invitations to play in 3 different Club Championships. As I said, they are Muni’s and Open to the Public…one would think the Clubs would have their own Men’s Association. That’s not what I’m seeing. So anyone from the Public can be a Club Champion. :thinking: I think because of the expensiveness of Greens Fees now…many in excess of $125 a round, they really don’t have the camaraderie for players any longer which is what drew me to the game in the first place. I think this is very SAD. And for some reason, I have noticed that in the aftermath of the Major Covid outbreak from 2019-2022ish, everyone and their dog have taken up the game. The majority of these players are very poor players, they have no etiquette and no respect for the grounds or other players. Music blaring out of their phones in carts. They don’t let faster players play thru, when a ranger tells them to speed-up they F/U him, they don’t fix ballmarks, replace divots and Drink alcohol like it’s 11pm on a Friday nite at the local PUB! That’s what seems to be trending. I mean how can a 4some that that just has no understanding or even respect for OUR game drop $500…this I don’t get!

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Similar here in our region, especially in the working class neighborhood. Public golf courses are a hit and miss who one will be golfing with. i usually had to repair several more ball marks besides mine when I’m on the green. Bunkers were not raked and smoothed, divot not filled. And yes, drinking and loud music is quite annoying on the golf course.
Personally I’m not objecting to a little drinking on the golf course, as long as, one could hold his liquor and try to be gentleman. Drinking was quite common on the golf course, before all the medicine for pain and muscle relaxant existed.
Bad behavior seems to be everywhere, not just on the golf courses.
Hopefully, these trend seekers will leave the golf course and go back to their usual party theme when they found out it takes dedication and work to improve their golf game. Which they don’t have the time nor the patience.
This game is supposed to teach us how to handle life’s events while enjoying the journey. I don’t see those people who live a millionaire’s life without work really have it.
So many small fortune had been created by playing the roll of a “middleman” instead of the traditional work position. We certainly can’t have all of us being a middleman, a blood sucker, without the baseline workers.
Anyways, seniors who used to fill out 20%-30% of the public golf courses could not keep up with the increase of the green fees. Even with the so called senior rate.
If a senior with fixed income, usually they’ll have limited disposable income. If, the senior decided to spend most of the disposable income with the game of golf, then it’ll mean one thing… reduced rounds of golf with the same fixed budget.
Personally, I know many of the guys quit the game and redirect their budget to healthcare and enjoy better food.
I know when the golf courses lose these senior golfers, most of them will never come back to the game.
You are so right about the companionship and the comradery, the spirit of friendship and community which is the key holding these seniors showing up several times a week to see their friends. But prioritizing the limited fixed budget is one thing most the retired guys have to do to make the best out of their life.
Golf, is attractive and addicting, but, not essential to life.

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I share some of your concerns about the management of municipal golf courses, especially when it comes to decisions that impact the overall golfing experience. Golf is a sport that’s enjoyed by people of all backgrounds and genders, and it’s essential that golf courses cater to the needs and preferences of their diverse clientele.

I agree that prioritizing profit over the quality of the golfing experience can be disheartening. Golf is not just a game; it’s a way to relax, connect with others, and enjoy the outdoors. Shortening holes and implementing pricing strategies that feel unfair can certainly discourage golfers, both new and experienced, from enjoying the game.

Moreover, promoting golf etiquette and skill development for new golfers is crucial. Encouraging them to start on par-3 or executive courses can help them learn the game and its traditions more comfortably, fostering a positive and respectful golfing environment for all.

Ultimately, golf course management should be responsive to the golfing community’s needs and desires, promoting inclusivity and ensuring that the game remains enjoyable for everyone. It’s essential for golf enthusiasts to advocate for improvements and policies that enhance the golfing experience for all, regardless of gender or background.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Unfortunately, golf, especially those golf courses managed by the municipal authorities lack the vision of why there are golf courses in and around the city.
As an added amenity, golf courses will attract more to move to the city and most of all, to retain the existing residents.
What we have these days are the unqualified uncaring people at the helm making decisions for our life. As golfers, we (including most of the golfers I know, but a couple of hundred) are very sensitive to protecting the game we love.
I state the facts, not like some special interest group motivated to change everyone else’s life to achieve their private goal.
Extreme left-wing group wants to city to bulldoze all the municipal golf courses (some have been around past the century mark) to make “affordable housing”. The only way to have affordable housing is to control the population growth. City went along with the demand and did a study conducted by a group from outside (the fee cost over 6 figure). Siphoning profit generated from the golf courses to other department as they see fit, neglecting the necessary maintenance needed to keep it a golf course.
What were they thinking? Run the golf course down the ditch so they could have excuses to remove it?
These are the facts from my personal connection (amassed in the last 4 decades in and around the public golf courses); Some of them I had known since they were new in the industry as an assisting professionals, now they are scatted within the public service positions and other sectors in the golf industries around here, they won’t lie to me.
We could only vote with our wallets. A quote from a member here.
We’ve abandoned our weekly meetings on the golf courses where the green fee had gone up more than what the golf courses is.
Now I received messages alerting the “price drop” at quite a few public golf courses, for weekend golf.
Guess what?
When a loyal client left the establishment, it’ll cost 300%+ more effort to get them or a new client back. People are habit forming creatures. We’d rather not break out routines. Just don’t let us discover a better way than what we have. cause we’ll not be back.
Case in point, the shortage of the chili paste, Huy Fung, the manufacturer of Sambal Oelek chili paste, and Sriracha hot sauce were in shortage, some hiked up the price online at 500%-700% of the retail price. The chili paste is an ingredient my wife cooks with. Because of this shortage and unreasonable stockpiling pricing, we had discovered the freshly made chili paste is much better than the jarred. It only takes 20 minutes to make a batch for the month.
The cost is about the same as the past retail price, so not saving much. However, the fresh taste will keep us making the chili sauce and sauce at home.
My group of golfers had discovered the greener pasture over at the next cities, so we have been carpooling, going a little bit farther out to enjoy golf. Several guys bought/lease new EV for the purpose.
I think the local golf courses will have to make extra effort to get our group back for our weekly outing.
I also spoke with a couple of local golf course staff; they told me very seldom did they impose the “extra fee” by staff. It is supposed to be run by software. I asked them how much “extra” did the city spend on the managing software? They sneezed at the current policy.

Now that’s very interesting. Our county commissioners are Democratic 5/2. Last year 3 D seats came up grabs. Our muni is “run” by the county commissioners. Three D seats were contested in last years election, and the election actually came down to this part of the R platform. They wanted to disband the golf course, along with 4 other county run “programs”. It just so happens, the Golf Course NETS close to $1M profit annually after expenses. Along the perimeter of the course is a “Blue Bird Watchers” bike trail that make ZERO monies, but is maintained by the county, hence showing a loss. Putting all those programs together, it looks like a dollar loss. So they misrepresented what was going on with our course. The F&B is farmed out to a local guy and he makes Big Bank with the facility. He put up a big fight and would have purchased the course himself, he wasn’t going to give up his facility… The commissioners stayed D by a decent margin and we kept our course. The course was deemed a historical sight by the county and now that threat is gone permanently. Also turned out 2 of the R folks were going to be involved in a transaction to develop the property. So the BS runs both ways!

You are probably better off than us here.
Our city council is made up of a few “radicals” or if you wish, call them socialist members of a local chapter.
How did they get on the seat to run the city? By promising more to the voters.
Unbeknown to those who voted for these inexperienced, uncapable, the voters might get a larger paycheck, but the expense index will also grow faster. Quicken the steps of inflation.
So many I talked to on the golf courses told me that they were better off before the higher minimum wage. These are the worker from the baseline industry, waiters/waitress, bar tenders, barristers, service reps.
The cities are viewing the golf courses as cash cows. Some of them are not even golfers, and don’t care about golf in general.
One of city’s municipal golf courses is also deemed a historical site, being the first golf courses to accept colored golfers and golf professionals. This is the same golf course which I mentioned that is in need of a barrier where the trees died on 2 holes in the back nine.
a short but challenging golf course where Fred Couples played a lot when he was growing up around it.
Met a few important people from both the PGA and the LPGA visiting the golf course when they were in town. Even ran into a lot of Japanese tourists who want to golf at the oldest golf course in the city when they were visiting. Played with a lady who founded a worldwide R/E company with her two companions (their 4th could not make it and I was the walk on 4th). Some very interesting golfers I paired up with as a walk-on single. Even the airline pilots laying over from Japan airline and Korean Airline…
I’d bet they don’t visit that golf course anymore since the chopped short a few holes in the back,
I have a choice, by not going back there to golf, but all those who live around the golf course in the city will feel the impact of the mismanagement.

Well, I hope a similar situation does not exist in your neck of the woods.

Every golfer who plays in wet conditions will know their golf shoes will get soiled and the grass and mud will stick to the soft spikes after walking the golf course. The wheels on the push cart will also be dirty.
One of our local tracks, had changed hands many times since the original 18 holes were built with Paul Allen’s money (financial backing) in 1994, Now 36 holes + a par3 nine hole and a putting course.
One would assume the basic air cleaning station would be standard at such a place?
I have not been back for years because our group favors other sites. I took someone there today at a request to watch their golf game.
Anyways, the golf game was a success, corrected a few minor things in the posture and a few encouraging words did the magic.
We were greeted by the signage of " OUT OF ORDER" at the shoe cleaning station. I then took the guys and gal to their cart barn asked the cleaner to borrow their water hose to hose down the shoes and push carts.
The worker told the current owner deemed the shoe cleaning station is not a necessity to a golf course? The cleaning station is in disrepair for almost 5 years.
What is the owner thinking? This is not a country club where golfers could leave their shoes for the attendants to clean and polish.
I don’t know anyone who likes to drive home with a dirty push cart and shoes in the trunk of the back of an SUV.
I see plenty of golfer at the complex, parking lot was full and many are waiting for a spot to park. Obviously at their weekend rate still have good volume right after they aerify the greens less than 10 days prior, their operation income should be in the Black and making profit.
Their senior winter program also went to a point of not able to break even after 10 rounds of winter golf there.
I have no idea what the owner is thinking.
All we could do is to refuse to go back there until the cleaning station is fixed.
I will definitely refuse to go there if asked to walk with someone in need of help.
I did not go in to the club house but one of the gals told me that they don’t supply hand paper towels in the bathroom, and there is no air dryer.
I guess the owner also believes the hand drying device is not necessary. I was in shock when she said there is no paper towel in the lady’s bathroom, because the club house has a full-size restaurant and bar. No bathroom paper towels in the bathroom would be a violation of the health code. Even so, how should the hands be dried after washing?
This person owned the golf complex for 5 years now, I can see it is running on bare minimum maintenance. This should not happen while the golf courses are making profit. Unless he siphons the profit to somewhere else.

The 6 public tracks I play where I live have amazing amenities. The “”Club Grub” is pretty outstanding. The pro shops are nicely stocked, parking areas well attended, customer service is really strong. I wish the rangers could enforce some pace of play and etiquette of the “Casual Players” we all see anymore. I still don’t get that. How does a 4some drop more than 1/2 to 3/4 of One Large and hit wayward shot after wayward shot, get high, get drunk, tear up the fairways, not rake the traps, on and on…My Home base, does not provide water on the course, I miss that! I honestly think if they would stock some cheap bottles on the honor system, people would drop a couple dollars for a plastic bottle swig! We do have 3 shoe cleaning stands. We have auto paper towel, soap dispensers, auto flush lieu’s and hand wash sinks. Other than some real loons playing the course anymore, and the commissioners keeping their hand off it, I can’t complain.

This is the part I do not understand. The behavior is somewhat tolerable if you follow the tradition of playing at windy/rainy links without many others on the golf course and your foursome or manysome would like to have a few elixirs to wear off the chill and the arthritis pain. But keep up with the group ahead, if there is any.
Many, many years ago, one of the guys’ wife had a work place tournament at a local golf track.
I was told several of them sneaked in bottles of vodka and cans of beer. Now, the golf courses have the monopoly on alcohol drinks, signage of “no outside drinks” post4ed at the entry and outside of the clubhouse. Anyways, by the middle of the front nine, the group of 16 could not hold their liquors anymore.
Ended up the whole group was thrown out of the golf course and warned not to come back if they’ll not able to hold their liquor.
I’ll enjoy a drink or two at the nineteenth, but not during the round. It’ll screw up my game and like you said, why spend extra money to get drunk on the golf course. There are more comfortable places to do that.
With the “growing the game” and the Tiger maniac, we started to see golfers coming to the game from none tradition sources.
In my neighboring city, a young girl qualified for the U.S. Women Open. That stirred up the interests of many younger kids. We start to see more and more young ones on the driving range and on putting greens.
Area golf courses started aerify the greens and soon the tee box and the fairway next month. There is a chill in the air but no morning frost just yet.
This unseasonal warmth kept a lot of golfers on the golf courses, which is great for the golf course operators to try to make up for the losses from the pandemic’s years.
Bad news is us the regular golfers will still need to fight with the crowded tee time and 5-6 hour round of golf.

This is just recent happenings at my course, but it does show how golf been booming here in the Northeast. I joined my sem-private club 6 years ago when they were offering no-brainer deals even for someone that can’t play a lot. Early on I had drinks with the president of the club and he confided that it wasn’t doing well. They had hardly any members even with the deals and not much outside play. The club was in debt and the town owns the land that at least 5 holes sit on and the mayor wanted to shut it down.

Fast forward to the pandemic and the course is constantly full. Membership has more than doubled (maybe close to triple) without deals and they are turning the public away regularly. They got a relatively large Covid loan and built a beautiful patio and made some upgrades. They have gone from being in debt to having a LOT of cash on hand.

Now since things are going so well they want to make some changes. A new sprinkler system is needed so membership was going up, but that’s just the tip. They want to relocate the pro shop and putting green and build a big new clubhouse. They want to get rid of some of the member leagues since members don’t pay extra for leagues. They want to cancel the smaller outside tournaments since they don’t generate as much money. Many members have smaller charity tournaments and such so they can host larger events.

I’m glad the course is doing well and many of the changes are good, but I wonder what will happen in the long run. Some members, myself included, will be on the fence about re-joining as the rate keeps climbing. It’s hard to justify when you don’t have the time to play a lot. I wonder what will happen to the club if, for some reason, people start giving up golf again?

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Unfortunately, management is shortsighted on the overall good health of the golf club in the long run.
Not unusual when we put those wearing blindsides in charge of the direction for the club.
Expansion and improvement are always good, to the limit of what the market will bear. It’ll be at a point of diminishing of return, which will not add additional value for membership but for the enjoyment of the existing members.
Don’t the members vote for capital improvement or was the decision made by a few in the committee? We have a golf course here which hosted a PGA Champions Tour event, 27 holes, gated entrance to a residential and country club setting. in the early 2000, a significant exodus of members because the special assessment of $50K-$80K was imposed for improvements.
I happened to golf with a few of them and they told me the extra assessment was not in their planned budget.
Same with another newer golf club nearby, one guy told me that his initiation was $68K ( 2 decades ago) but monthly dues, golf membership plus food and drink went from $400 to $700.
He seldom golf because he was busy running his business.
Selling the equity membership had a waiting list, might take up to several years if it is your turn to recover 60% of the original $68K.
He said to me that he golfed maybe a handful last year, at $8,000 dues that is over a thousand per round. His wife and kids used the swimming pools and spot/training room in the season but still did not make him feel good about spending the budget. He quit and abandon the initiation fee just to escape the monthly while waiting to sell his membership.
Recently, I received notice for public play for the said private club. I don’t think the discounted green fee is worth what we get. The public does not get to use their club house, dining room. No option to play all 27 holes. No sauna room privilege…Just pay the two bills and fit in the lesser known two nines and you’re out of there.
I did see the crowds on the public golf courses in and near the metropolitan area are not reducing at this point. We’ll see when the rainy season starts and morning frost makes its presence.
It will be very interesting to see which direction this sport will take in the next 3 years, with the economy turning around or not.
Maybe some of these new golfers will be willing to join the endless chase for a better golf game or maybe they will go back to cycling pickleball of what they did before the pandemics.

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We do have committees that vote and the membership votes on committee chairs and other things so some of this stuff may not pass.

The club wasn’t viable as it was so maybe “making hay” now and shifting upscale is the way to go? It may become another club that many of us cannot afford, but that may be the best business model for it.

I may have to return to sporadic golfing at the nearby public courses with 5 hour rounds until I can retire someplace less expensive.

This is the reason why one of the guys wants to be on the board of directors in the HOA, not because he loves the extra work but because he wants to keep an eye on the decisions which might change his own life.
Let’s face it. No matter how we dress up a donkey, it will not turn into a quarter horse. Unless one is sitting on the right piece of real estate and has the budget to rebuild the golf course, it is what it is and the maintenance will just keep it in that state.
The forward mentioned municipal golf course had a face lift with a new club house and driving rage when the old building was in need of a rebuilt. So, some guys in the city decided to spend over one million ( back in 2012 (golf course was virginally built in 1917 and the old club house been through quite a few remodeling over the years). Yes, I remembered the squeaking floor and the uneven levels between the sections of the club house, but it was okay because it was what it was a daily fee municipal golf course, we did like the remodel of the sand bunkers and the up-keep of the greens and the fairways. That was what we wanted, and maybe a roof over our head for the 19th.
They built this new club house with fancy restaurant and kitchen, even all the servers at one time were wearing the white uniform (I had no idea why that was necessary), cloth table linen and nice china for serving. It will not turn the club house into a 4 star neighborhood restaurant for sure. So, they spent the budget on that facelift instead of addressing the diseased trees on the golf course to anticipate possible barrier for several holes in the back nine. Later they cut the holes short to prevent the slicers from bombing the tee shots into neighbor’s yard across the street on the left side. Bad decisions and totally messed up priorities.
I don’t have a two-year degree in golf course management; however, I’d imagine most the time devoted in that two years after the Maintenace and turf management will be the basic business knowledge of how to run a golf course.
Unfortunately, we don’t have the silvers as Celine Dion, who bought a golf course to fill a couple of fairway bunkers and cut down a tree which found her tee shot often, because she was a frequent visitor to those fairway bunkers. The decision to become a golf course owner was made after the committee turned down her request to cut down that tree.
So, while under the roof of others, they must follow the house rules.
This was a major reason why I had never joined a private golf club. Besides, I enjoy golf at different venues instead of the same golf course all the time. I figure, beyond the initiation fee, the average monthly of $500-$800 for golf and food/beverage could put me on a lot of nice golf courses.
I think if you golf at a golf course that requires more skill (higher slope rating) you would avoid most of the beginner golfers.
Longer rounds seem to equal shorter track and lower green fees.

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The meterologist had issued the first frost warning of the season. As forecasted low temperature will dip below the freezing point over night for the next 7-9 days.
Frost delay is coming, with the shorter day light hours. Off season golf is here. But not for the off season green fee rate. Only one of the local public golf courses will lower their weekday daily fee and the rest will wait til the traditional November, when the USGA shuts down the score input for handicap index.
It will be very curious to see if the new golfers will return to the golf courses this fall/winter.
According to one of the guys, his wife had been intoduced to golf and hooked on this game bad. Just took her lessons and fitted with a new driver so, she’ll probably get a taste of off season golf this year.
My wife is more a fair weather golfer, but she also hates the sun because whe will get the freckles and sun spots from the UV rays. So my wife’s golf season is really limited to just 4-5 months of the year.
As this guys said, maybe his wife will slow down after she has a taste of frost delayed golf, so he could have one day of golf by himself with his buddies.

I took a couple of guy and gals to a local executive golf course.
New golfers just started this game this spring. That golf course was choosen of the proximity to the majority of where they live.
I booked a tee time at 2:30 P.M. but did not get on the tee until after 3:00 P.M. caused by the frost delay in the morning. A usual round of 90 minutes elapsed 2.5 hours.
One of the gals told me when we were standing on the tee box after checking in with the starter that the group ahead ( moving extremely slow) were sharing golf clubs from one bag.
As we know each golfer on the golf course must have their own set of golf clubs in order not to delay the pace of play.
I mentioned this to the starter and he jumped into his cart to warn the group to keep up with their pace. A rental set would set them back $30-$35, more than the green fee for 9 holes.
I chated with the started after he came back to his post that I hope those did not pay 4 green fees and play one set of golf club?
The starter checked with his tablets and told me that they paid all 4 green fees ( which is about $100 ) but no rental clubs.
I’m thinking, we must avoid this executive golf course in the future if we could help it.
It is flooded with beginners and some of them could not advance the golf balls veery well. This issue is partially caused by the high cost of fuel, and the massive traffic on the roadways.
No one likes to travel far these days unless they have to.
Took me 20+ minutes to get on the freeways ( 8 miles ) because there was some kind of activities. Half way through downtown there were two incidents of fire engine and emergency vehicles blaring their lights and sirens rushing to their destination. Close to a notorious spot for drug dealing and dischargin gun shots from the pandemics years.
Good thing is, people are returning to shopping in the city and the golf courses are packed. Bad thing is, the violencece and crime wave caused by the “tolerance” policy never left.
Somedays we’ll feel that we are living in Chicago or Detroit from the 90s.
Not going back to that nice little golf course in the forseeable future for me.

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My wife had her first round in the fall/autumn condition. Close to freezing point early in the morning but around her tee time it was fine and dandy. It was nice without strong wind (golf course is near Puget Sound and could get windy at times). Temperature was in the low to mid 60s F.
Fairways and rough were wet, greens had patchy moisture spots, no rooster tail resulted from putting, but slower and inconsistent speed on the greens. Sand in the bunkers were packed tight.
So, after her first round in this weather, she told me that her push cart wheels and her shoes were wet with grass clipping and some mud. I helped her to clean up at the cleaning station with air hose.
Obsiously, she has no idea what winter golf is like. We’ll see if she’ll tough it out for the winter condition coming soon.

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Rain is here, trying to make up for the dry summer we had had.
Warm moisture from the south Pacific ocean brought in the moisture with the warmer temerature.
This will be interesting to see if the new golfers will venture out on the golf courses with wet and muddy condition. Of course, those who moved here from the frozen winter land will think this wonderful.
I on the other hand, had my share of the wet and muddy golf for decades. Plus my wife will not enjoy washing the mud off the pants, so I’ll have to soak it and wash it apart from the rest of the laundry.
I’ll be picky and selective. Maybe there would be enough dry days in the next 4 months?